wade." at the time people thought it was a settled issue, and this issue was between the woman and her doctor, and they would make the decision, and that was it. everybody else get lost. that has completely changed a little bit. >> let me push back on that, because we have been using this frame of between the woman and her doctor, and it has not worked. what we need to be saying is that people can make this decision for themselves, and they don't need a politician, and they don't need necessarily the community, though a lot of women involve the families and communities, but they can make the decision for themselves and they don't need permission to have an abortion. >> or the moral agent. >> and the privacy is an important frame term. it means, and i think that it something that we could work with, because it appeals to a wide range of people. and that was at the heart of "roe v. wade" and such hypocrisy in virginia with the invasive ultrasound to talk about limited government and keep the g